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    Default Re: Our poor Molly.. i think i may faint

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLost View Post
    We could really use some guidance here.. What questions should i ask the orthopedic specialist? What options are available other then the TSO's (Triple Pelvic Osteotomy)?

    This might be unethical on my part, but when I go see a specialist I act like I know absolutely nothing. I would say something like "we noticed him walking funny so we thought he should see an ortho" and leave it at that. I wouldn't mention any other previous diagnosis. Let him tell you what is wrong, that's what hes getting paid to do.

    I just googled this triple pelvic osteotomy and it looks a whole lot like my spinal fusion. The pain from that was (and still sometimes is) outrageous! Abby can't have surgery for her hips but if she could, I don't know that I would. I'm reading that an alternative is a hip replacement or something called FHO. Supplements can also be useful in delaying arthritis. I am getting her braces for her elbows, they also make them for knees

    nuVet swears that chiropractic can help her with both her elbows and her hips so we're givng that a shot.
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    Oh I'm so sorry to hear this news. I know this has to be a very difficult time you all. I too would get a second opinion and I like the suggestion made by @Twice. to you all.
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    Hold the phone here!

    First, there should not be a charge for each side for the Triple Pelvic Osteotomy (TPO). That is the first red flag. The surgery involves breaking and manipulating the pelvis, so one surgery would include both sides since the pelvis carries both of the hip sockets.

    Second, that is obviously a MAJOR surgery. My bulldog Truman was diagnosed with severe hip dysplasia at 10 weeks and had one hip out of socket completely but we did not have to go right to the TPO because that is the most invasive and complicated treatment for hip dyslasia available to bulldogs (they are NOT candidates for hip replacement) and often, depending on severity, other treatments are available and work well.

    I am also surprised to hear this suggestion at 7 months of age since Molly is NOT done growing yet and bulldog hips often grown tighter with age!

    I recommend reading this: THIS, which is an article I wrote on hip dysplasia in English Bulldogs. It includes x rays of Truman's hips and a photo of him in the comments showing what severe hip dysplasia looks like in bulldog.

    Definitely get a second opinion! Was this a regular vet that you took your bully to or a specialist? At this point, don't even bother with another regular vet, get to an orthopedic surgeon - the only ones fully qualified to diagnose and perform any kind of hip surgery.

    I would also contact the breeder. At the very least, they need to know they are breeding dogs with loose hips.

    There are a lot of variables in this situation here but try not to panic and get Molly to an orthopedic specialist who knows EXACTLY what to look for and how to manipulate Molly's joints to get a good diagnosis. Also, it might seem ironic, but it is a good thing you are catching this now, before Molly's joints potentially become arthritic - and there is no reversing that.

    I have been where you are and I have a lot of experience with bulldogs and orthopedic issues so please tag me if you have more questions!

    xoxox to Molly!

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    Also, don't be mad at your vet for giving Molly a clean bill of health - without x-rays, there is no way of knowing that her hips could be loose and puppies hips are always loose since they tighten up with growth.

    I would be mad at the treatment plan because it sounds to me like the vet has really jumped the gun and probably isn't qualified to make that type of diagnosis or recommendation.

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    I'm so sorry to hear about Molly and a second opinion is where I would be headed for sure.

    What a great site, so much concern, love and advice.

    Please keep everyone posted. Prayers headed your way....
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    I agree with @sheshistory A specialist would be better qualified at this point I think the vet jumped the gun, I remember reading that surgery for hip dysplasia is only recommended on severe cases for bulldogs... I remember a picture of Truman sitting funny, does Molly do anything like that?

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    Thank you @sheshistory.. you have talked me off the ledge! I may be (just a wee-little bit) prone to panic .

    I read your post to my wife and she did say our vet was very 'non-committal' about the surgery and said we really need to talk to the specialist (Everything i know about the visit is through txt messages and my wife's quick tear-filled call)... he will get a grilling from me ASAP.

    I am very grateful we found out about it now. I had hoped i was done with having a 'special needs' dog after my Frankie passed away in December... But maybe its fate that we got Molly (Frankie's back-end was a mess due to being hit by a car before i adopted him.. nothing surgery could fix... oh, and he was shot at one point in his life).

    I need to remind myself that Molly isn't in any pain right now. Being the DRAMA QUEEN she is... we would know if it was bothering her. My wife is having a hard time keeping her from jumping around... as seen by this current photo of her trying to figure out how much of an xbox controller she can fit in her mouth..

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    Quote Originally Posted by acarabias View Post
    I remember a picture of Truman sitting funny, does Molly do anything like that?
    We she sits on command its a normal sit... but i cant say I've noticed her sitting in the classic 'bad hip' type position. I'm going to have to pay more attention to it now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLost View Post
    Thank you @sheshistory.. you have talked me off the ledge! I may be (just a wee-little bit) prone to panic .

    I read your post to my wife and she did say our vet was very 'non-committal' about the surgery and said we really need to talk to the specialist (Everything i know about the visit is through txt messages and my wife's quick tear-filled call)... he will get a grilling from me ASAP.

    I am very grateful we found out about it now. I had hoped i was done with having a 'special needs' dog after my Frankie passed away in December... But maybe its fate that we got Molly (Frankie's back-end was a mess due to being hit by a car before i adopted him.. nothing surgery could fix... oh, and he was shot at one point in his life).

    I need to remind myself that Molly isn't in any pain right now. Being the DRAMA QUEEN she is... we would know if it was bothering her. My wife is having a hard time keeping her from jumping around... as seen by this current photo of her trying to figure out how much of an xbox controller she can fit in her mouth..
    Whew good! I know it's scary though!

    Just for reference, Truman didn't need a TPO for his hips. He had his hip out of socket stitched back in and the Juvenile Pubic Symphysiodesis (JPS) and has been fine ever since - and he was literally unable to walk when he was diagnosed so I can't really imagine that Molly's case would require even more invasive treatment since she's getting around well.

    Update us as soon as you get that second opinion!

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    Thanks for everybody's support!

    Molly hasn't limped once since Monday... he's her normal bouncing off the walls self. We are trying to get an anointment next week with a specialist.

    The breeder was distraught (to say the least) when we contacted her. Molly is her favorite of that litter and she actually comes over often to visit. Once she calmed down she and my wife contacted the other owners of molly's brothers and sisters seeing of they've had any problems... so far none have shown any issues, most said they'd get checked out on their next vet visits. I think i said before, but we talked to other people who have 'adopted' from this breeder and they all said their dogs have been very healthy. However... It sounds like molly's momma is getting spayed.

    They also contacted the fathers owner, who lives on the other side of the state... He also seemed concerned and is contacting other 'adopties' and seeing if they have any issues. I'm not 100% sure he'll stop using Molly's dad as breeding stock.. but the owner of molly's mom won't use that sire again.

    Hopefully its a big hubba-baloo over nothing... We'll know more next week.


    However, i have a HUGE dilemma now (one that will be moved to another post).

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    Poor Molly. It does sound like your breeder is a responsible one though. My best to you and Molly for what's to come.
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    My wife spoke on the phone today with the orthopedic specialist that our vet sent Molly's xrays to... Molly's hips are fine!

    @sheshistory was correct.. he said bulldogs hips are a bit different then other dogs and hers look 100% normal.

    We are getting her knee's checked out next week but it sounds like the same thing @acarabias is going through with Katara. We saw her limp yesterday after skidding on the tile chasing our other dog. Her leg looked a little 'off' but after a quick second she was back running and jumping like it never happened. It does seem like it pops out of place for a second.. then pops back in.

    Thanks again to everybody on this site!

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