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    Default Urination/bladder control problems.

    I've been hoping this little problem was just a single incident, then I hoped that maybe it was just a little repeat, then I went through feeling embarrassed and shameful that I might have caused the problem. Now I'm just worried about it and need advice.

    For the last 3 nights Brixton has soiled his crate. He hasn't been stirring and making noise in the morning to wake me up. He has also been peeing in his crate while I was at work. I've been coming home on my lunches to take him out, but half of the time he has peed in his crate. He has been peeing around the house. If I turn my head for a minute I'll have to start looking for the puddle.

    Before I was crating Brixton during the day I had been using an exercise pen in my bathroom. Boy did that bathroom stink. I also had to take a 2 day trip to California for family reasons where my roommate and her boyfriend watched him. He had 2 small potty accidents in my room when they where watching him. Since I had gotten back I had a perfect 6 days with Brixton with no potty problems. His crating was great.

    4 days ago we had a few changes which I think could have brought about the problem. I finally had time to deep clean the carpet in the house with my bissell upright deep cleaner. I cleaned the bathroom that he had been kept in with vinegar. I got two scented reed diffusers to keep the home smelling good. Last, but not least I changed Brixton to a raw diet.

    Brixton has been healthy and happy minus the potty problems. He is energetic, playful, and generally in a good mood. His stools have gotten darker brown and firmer since he started on the raw meaty bones.

    Now I'm trying to figure out a remedy for this problem. this morning after day 3 of waking up to a pee filled crate I switched him back to his kibble. I cleaned his crate. I started him back on 3 hours in crate 30 minutes out routine and while he's out of his crate he's on a 6 foot lead. I'm going back to crate training basics with him.

    I don't know what else to do. Do I need to take him to see his vet? I'm not sure if I should put a belly band on him over night. At this moment if he would make any attempt to get my attention over night I would take him out to go potty, but he just sits quietly and waits for me to take him out if he's holding it or if he's standing in a puddle of pee(he won't lay in it)


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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    Holy crap.... have you had a urine test done to see if her has a UTI? Is the puddle big, small.. discolored, strong odor?

    we had a similar problem with Banks -- constant UTI's and she would pee all over the house and the odor was horrible -- she needed surgery, vulvaplasty, since you have a male that would not be a surgery for him as Banks just had way too much tissue in her private area which was causing the bacteria to build up, hence the UTI.
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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    Is there anything absorbent in his crate? If so he will pee on it. Full bladder control doesn't happen until around 6 months old. Are you taking him out in the middle of the night? Puppies can hold it for a max of 1 hour per month old they are plus 1 hour so if he is 3 months old the MAX he can go is 4 hours. If you make him hold it longer, you are setting him up for accidents or bladder infections. It sucks to get up in the middle of the night with a puppy but a lot of them need it.

    Also imho it sounds like he is in his crate or restrained too much . 30 min out for every 3 hours plus all night plus 8 hours while you work or 4 if you come home on lunch is a bit much. Puppies have tons of energy and NEED exercise and to be able to run to properly develop joints muscles and bones. If whenever he is out he is tied to a lead this isn't good. You will need to just follow and watch him closely for signs of needing to potty.
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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    Sounds like a urinary tract infection or maybe diabetes? Does he drink a lot of water also? My rottie i had was diabetic and he was peeing like mad! Not saying it is but you should have his urine tested by vet!

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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    @dozersmama I agree! Puppies have a ton of energy and need exercise! Sometimes dogs do these things because they're bored and mad!
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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2BullyMama View Post
    Holy crap.... have you had a urine test done to see if her has a UTI? Is the puddle big, small.. discolored, strong odor?

    we had a similar problem with Banks -- constant UTI's and she would pee all over the house and the odor was horrible -- she needed surgery, vulvaplasty, since you have a male that would not be a surgery for him as Banks just had way too much tissue in her private area which was causing the bacteria to build up, hence the UTI.
    His urine is a normal shade of yellow. It has been full sized puddles overnight, but when coming home from work on breaks it could be just a small bit and he has been trying to hold it. It doesn't smell any stronger than usual.

    Quote Originally Posted by dozersmama View Post
    Is there anything absorbent in his crate? If so he will pee on it. Full bladder control doesn't happen until around 6 months old. Are you taking him out in the middle of the night? Puppies can hold it for a max of 1 hour per month old they are plus 1 hour so if he is 3 months old the MAX he can go is 4 hours. If you make him hold it longer, you are setting him up for accidents or bladder infections. It sucks to get up in the middle of the night with a puppy but a lot of them need it.

    Also imho it sounds like he is in his crate or restrained too much . 30 min out for every 3 hours plus all night plus 8 hours while you work or 4 if you come home on lunch is a bit much. Puppies have tons of energy and NEED exercise and to be able to run to properly develop joints muscles and bones. If whenever he is out he is tied to a lead this isn't good. You will need to just follow and watch him closely for signs of needing to potty.
    I understand that a puppy has plenty of energy to burn. We enjoy at least 1 1 mile walk a day and plenty of play time. I play with him until he's worn out and ready to cuddle up on the couch. When I come home from work he has been able to play around the room I have been in.

    The 3 hours in 30 minutes out and being leashed has been just getting him started back on his basic crate training. I don't have a problem with getting up in the middle of the night, but before he let me know that he needed to go out to go potty in the middle of the night. I agree if it where a perfect world I wouldn't have to crate him during the day time.

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbaisapig View Post
    Sounds like a urinary tract infection or maybe diabetes? Does he drink a lot of water also? My rottie i had was diabetic and he was peeing like mad! Not saying it is but you should have his urine tested by vet!
    He hasn't been drinking a lot of water since his food was changed to raw meaty bones which is normal because his food contains most of the water he will need in a day. I switched him back to dry this morning. He hasn't been too thirsty, but I'm sure he'll be ready for a drink with his evening feeding.


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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    Did you happen to change crates sizes? If not then I'm leaning towards medical issue
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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    I called the vet and have an appointment to go in at 8:30 tomorrow morning. meanwhile Brixton and I are having a great day playing and snuggling. I'm glad he's being such a good sport. Minus the peeing you'd never guess anything was wrong.


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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    Let us know how he is. It could be from the diet change. Relax and enjoy him. Have you tried sleeping with him in your bed?
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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    Sounds like a UTI, but may just be a phase he is going through, We has a little girl that did the same thing for about a month or so and then she was fine and she did not have a UTI.
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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2BullyMama View Post
    we had a similar problem with Banks -- constant UTI's and she would pee all over the house and the odor was horrible -- she needed surgery, vulvaplasty, since you have a male that would not be a surgery for him as Banks just had way too much tissue in her private area which was causing the bacteria to build up, hence the UTI.
    Exact same problem here with Lupe, a girl (and the same surgery: vulvaplasty and stricture revision) BUT if Brixton's peeing because he just can't hold it yet, that is different than just unintentional "leaking." Infections and anatomical stuff, based ONLY on experience, result in leaks and dribbles, not full peeing. Again, I'm just a girl speaking from my experience with one leaky puppy.

    I think as long as his urine concentration and PH are okay, then you might just have a basic bully puppy on your hands. More importantly: you sound completely invested in taking care of him. Seriously: that is all that matters. It's a delicate balance between how the two of you read each other and learn to "talk"...best of luck.

    PS: "Nature's Miracle" has helped us in the past with removing off-limits places our dogs "marked" during accidents. Good stuff and not chemically.

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    Default Re: Urination/bladder control problems.

    Yeah had the same issue with jameson...training was going great then bam he starts peeing in his crate, during the day overnight etc. Was. A UTI. Poor guy was miserable...antibiotics and he was a new puppy
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