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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyDuke View Post
    oh I feel for you.. duke has allergies as well. We switched from DVP duck and potato to NVI beef formula ( we had a little glitch ) Duke decided to pass a toy in the interem of doing this but he has been on this new food for two weeks now. Coat is silky and he is very energentic.. I would try it but like they said do it SLOWLY ( changing over )

    also do you give benadryl or zrtec.. we give Duke zrtec to keep his allergies at bay.. Good Luck to you and welcome to the site!!
    yes i have been giving her benadryl but had to take her to the vet recently and she gave me some antihistamine so ive been using that. she has been scratching her belly and ear seems to be trying to get red so i have taken her off the totw food and she is now on royal canin bulldog 24 till i can get to the store and get the instinct. I hate to switch her so quick but was afraid she could get worse and she has been on rc before for very brief periods and has been ok. may leave her on rc for a few days let her settle a bit and then start the transition to intinct. thanks so much for the support here its nice to talk to people who have been in my shoes with there bullys. will post a pic as soon as i can get to other puter to shrink one down to put on profile. Oh and in no way am i saying totw is bad food just didnt work out for my bully.
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    yes i have been giving her benadryl but had to take her to the vet recently and she gave me some antihistamine so ive been using that. she has been scratching her belly and ear seems to be trying to get red so i have taken her off the totw food and she is now on royal canin bulldog 24 till i can get to the store and get the instinct. I hate to switch her so quick but was afraid she could get worse and she has been on rc before for very brief periods and has been ok. may leave her on rc for a few days let her settle a bit and then start the transition to intinct. thanks so much for the support here its nice to talk to people who have been in my shoes with there bullys. will post a pic as soon as i can get to other puter to shrink one down to put on profile. Oh and in no way am i saying totw is bad food just didnt work out for my bully.
    just wanted to mention the other thing I learned the hard way also is giving the food more time.. I was told when you do a food trial to give it 6 weeks.
    do you clean your Bully's ears? We got aloe ear wash from our vet and we religiously clean Dukes ears once a week if not they get so filled with gunk and he will scratch and pull at them?
    just a suggestion. can't wait to see some pictures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyDuke View Post
    just wanted to mention the other thing I learned the hard way also is giving the food more time.. I was told when you do a food trial to give it 6 weeks.
    do you clean your Bully's ears? We got aloe ear wash from our vet and we religiously clean Dukes ears once a week if not they get so filled with gunk and he will scratch and pull at them?
    just a suggestion. can't wait to see some pictures!
    yes i clean her ears the vet gave me some ear cleaner after one visit with yeast in the ears.
    well what i didnt say is that her ears were fine since i took her off grains like a month and 1/2 ago no problems. still had some tail pocket issues and her pads were completely covered with yeast and redness inbetween and shes had 2 cysts on each front food forever. well i changed her food to totw and all was well for like 2 weeks with the help of benadryl. her yeast on pads was clearing up and her hair on back was growing back and then like a month into the food she started having scratch marks on one teet and her ear was getting red like it does at the start of yeast and the reason i had to take her to the vet was her booty was bleading from a pollup and was all red and swollen. i think it was yeast in her booty. also her pads started to get yeast again and the redness between the pads was getting worse. thats why i pulled her off suddenly and shes doing alot better now. problems clearing up. dont know if its the antibiotics or the rc bulldog food. has anyone else used royal canin bulldog 24. ive used it before for short periods and she seems to get better when i do then i read its not good food so i take her off but nothing else seems to make her get better like that. maybe i should just leave her on it? any thoughts as to if i should try instinct or leave her on rc.

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    I personally would switch to the instinct.. ( we have done this with duke)... ironically everything you are describing we went through with Duke.. it was awful.. finally we had him allergy tested. the vet was floored but he has no food allergies.. he is allergic to wool and mold. So we got rid of all the wool blankets in our home and now we just try to keep the itchies at bay.. We take Duke to a dermatologist. We tried allergy shots as well with no success. Duke takes a very low dose steriod every other day and zrtec but we are weaning him off. We switched to the instinct for reasons other than it being grain free .. it is so much better for his immune system. his coat feels like silk, bowels are great now.. and what i have noticed is his face and wrinkles are really clear. Now today we took him to the park and the pollen here is awful. he came home and was " butt spinning" with the itchies so we just try to distract him. i know how frustrating it is.. maybe you will want to have your dog allergy tested? once we got rid of the wool Duke never had swollen paws again? just a thought..

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    yes I have thought of getting her allergy tested. Even asked the vet last time I was there Tues as a matter of fact about where to get her tested. Ive said to people that Im just spinning my wheels trying to figure out what shes allergic to and Im thinking its not just food allergies I believe she has some food and maybe seasonal but who knows? Its so expensive thought isnt it? But Ive been heading that way as Im sure alot of bully owners have already done it or are considering it.

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    I'll add a few things here cowsmom that you may want to add to all of the great advice you are getting here. One thing babyduke's Mom helped me with trying to get my Lucy's allergies under control is keeping a diary. It sounds a little wacky, but you may be giving your pup something that is causing a flare that you just are not aware of. Potato and tapioca are things to avoid in food especially with yeast--but we uncovered that Lucy had a beef allergy by using a food diary. We had to eliminate using heartgard (beef flavored) because we could look at her diary to pin point the culprit. It was amazing--she would have a reaction to the Heartgard almost two hours after the dose. If I didn't keep a diary it would have taken me so much longer to put two and two together.

    If you are not already doing so you may want to get into a good routine of wiping the pups feet and belly after they come inside from a romp in the grass and dirt outside. If you are unsure what the culprit is (food or enviroment) the extra effort in keeping the dog clean and dry will help. Also, I keep Lucy's bedding in her crate clean and I change it every couple of days. I only use dye free, fragrance free detergent. Since we know Lucy is allergic to one of the culprits is dust mites (and the little bugger sleeps in our bed) I lay a clean king size sheet over my bedding. I also switch that out every couple of days too. Sounds like a lot of work--but once you get in to a routine it isn't too bad.

    I can't remember what the allergy testing cost but I think it was around $200.00. I did not have the food allergy testing done because we (my vet and I) were pretty confident that we had determined what foods Lucy was allergic to by doing the elimination diet.

    Good luck to you--allergies are really NO fun!

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    ok now im confused. the yeast site says to not use the instinct because of the tapioca and others here have said its ok to use with yeast and now you say no potatoes or tapioca also. Im in the process of switching her over to it and now im not so sure. This site recommends the food on their 5 recommended list even for yeast. So is it ok or not? The lady at my food store says to try it with yeast to. Gosh maybe ill just do raw its ok for yeast lol. Someone help me lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowsmom View Post
    ok now im confused. the yeast site says to not use the instinct because of the tapioca and others here have said its ok to use with yeast and now you say no potatoes or tapioca also. Im in the process of switching her over to it and now im not so sure. This site recommends the food on their 5 recommended list even for yeast. So is it ok or not? The lady at my food store says to try it with yeast to. Gosh maybe ill just do raw its ok for yeast lol. Someone help me lol.
    Oh dear..@cowsmom..you should pm @desertskybulldogs..she will help you. I'm a food idiot so I can't. Don't panic. I found the more I read the more confused I got. Ask her..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowsmom View Post
    ok now im confused. the yeast site says to not use the instinct because of the tapioca and others here have said its ok to use with yeast and now you say no potatoes or tapioca also. Im in the process of switching her over to it and now im not so sure. This site recommends the food on their 5 recommended list even for yeast. So is it ok or not? The lady at my food store says to try it with yeast to. Gosh maybe ill just do raw its ok for yeast lol. Someone help me lol.
    I am sorry if I confused you-- I am not saying not to try the instinct. I think it is a great place to start. See how the pup does-- others have had great success here with that food. I apologize--I thought that I read that tapioca is on the list of foods to avoid--but since I have not had a big problem with yeast--I really should not have made that comment. I do a lot of reading on boards and magazines and I thought tapioca was a no no--but I am no expert.

    I will say that the other things I mentioned in my previous post are all things that have worked for us. The diary, washing bedding, wiping down and drying after time spent outside.

    Again--my apologies. I hope whatever food you choose works well for your furry friend!

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    no worries its ok ive been confused since I got her lol. Actually I have 5 pets 2 cats and 3 dogs and they all have allergies and their own special problems so Ive been through enough food brands lol. Im going to try the Instinct its been recommended on here by several people and the nutricionist at the store i go to says to try it and if it doesnt work then off to the next food. Im hoping the key is the more protein in it the less carbs. Maybe ill try raw next. I know you were just trying to help and i appreciate the advise very much. Im all new to this yeast stuff to so im learning whats good and not good through trial and error.
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    ha ha I think I have been confused also since I got Duke.. the info Lucysmum gave about the diary an especially wiping their paws down etc is excellent ( completely forgot to put that in my original post ) If I don't wipe down Duke when he comes back from the park he will spin for hours! ha ha

    as for instinct I have no idea.. I read Dukes NVI instinct and he is on the beef flavor and it does not have any tapioca in it.. Maybe it is certain flavors? I have to say his coat has never felt better it is smooth as silk ( been almost a month now since we switched ).. and his face is very clear..but I also agree that every Bully is different and you really have to find what works best for yours..

    allergies are really a pain!!

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    @BabyDuke..HI...so good to hear Duke is doing so well..I am just starting jakes transition..2nd day..up to 15 pieces..tiny pieces they are too..wow..slow and steady. I am highly allergic to dog diaherria!! hope he does as well as Duke!

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