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    Hello all. I am new to this site and was wondering if you may have any suggestions or info for me. I have two English Bulldogs Mr. Pork Chop and Mr. Ribeye. They're brothers and were born June 2010. We started off feeding them Science Diet because the vet we got them from had been feeding it to them. We changed them to Purina Pro Plan Shredded Blend (Chicken and Rice) when we could no longer find the SD formula we had been feeding them. We've also got a Black Lab, Haley, and all three of them eat it and love it.

    Ribeye and Haley very rarely have problems but Pork Chop has had several ear infections, is itchy and has been waking up in the morning with a very "goopy" eye. Sometimes after he has eaten he will throw up clear mucous and some of the food he has just eaten. He's been to the vet multiple times and we are just told he has allergies and he is given drops for ears and drops for eyes but nothing really seems to cure his ailments.

    Ribeye sheds ridiculously and Pork Chop sheds a lot. The other day, just for the heck of it, I decided to get online to see if there was anything out there that may help with their shedding and came across a couple of posts that hinted to me that it may be possible that some of Pork Chop's issues may be being caused by an allergy to his food.

    - I never even thought about his food because he was fine on it for so long but is it possible that he could have become allergic to it 2-3 years after being put on it?

    - If so are there any recommendations of food I could try to test the theory?

    - I see a lot about Fromm but is there a specific formula it would be best to try first?

    - I also see Salmon Oil recommended to help alleviate part of the shedding issue. Do I add this to their food or give it to them like a medicine? Should I change their food and start giving them Salmon Oil at the same time?

    - If recommended to change food and then add the oil later (or vice versa) how long should I wait between these changes?

    - Ideally I would like to feed all three of them the same food, however I know this is not always possible but when I change Pork Chop's food I will more than likely change Ribeye and Haley's as well. Can you tell me if the Fromm formula recommended for English Bulldogs is also good for Labs?

    - I've also read that the ZoomGroom or a brush like it also helps with shedding. Is this something that will need to be used daily in order to be effective or how often would you recommend using it?

    I know this is a lot but any help or info would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks so much.

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    Hi! Welcome to EBN

    I'm definitely thinking it could be the food. Chicken & rice are the top two contributors to allergies in bulldogs. Fromms is a wonderful option. Really, anything that is "grain free - chicken free" would work best. Many here do Pork n Peas, Beef Frittata, Salmon, Lamb.... Bulldogs and any dog for that matter will do so much better on a higher quality food. So yes, your other dogs can absolutely benefit as well. Just keep in mind that you won't find these higher quality foods at your local Petsmart or Petco. You'll have to look for Natural pet food store not sure what is in your area... but on the Fromms website, if you search their providers, it will show you where you can find it.

    I would do the switch gradually. Do not just switch cold turkey. Transition them over slowly each day increasing the new food, and decreasing the old. Also, I would do do the food change - see how they do on that, and then start adding other supplements. You may see that with just switching the food to a much better quality that alot of your problems disappear

    Please keep us posted on the switch and how they do! We'd love to see some pics of all your babies!

    Add: Be patient with the switch, you have to fully allow all the old food to be gone before you start seeing changes, could take at least a month or maybe more. And yes, they can develop allergies to certain foods, even after time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TyTysmom View Post
    Hi! Welcome to EBN

    I'm definitely thinking it could be the food. Chicken & rice are the top two contributors to allergies in bulldogs. Fromms is a wonderful option. Really, anything that is "grain free - chicken free" would work best. Many here do Pork n Peas, Beef Frittata, Salmon, Lamb.... Bulldogs and any dog for that matter will do so much better on a higher quality food. So yes, your other dogs can absolutely benefit as well. Just keep in mind that you won't find these higher quality foods at your local Petsmart or Petco. You'll have to look for Natural pet food store not sure what is in your area... but on the Fromms website, if you search their providers, it will show you where you can find it.

    I would do the switch gradually. Do not just switch cold turkey. Transition them over slowly each day increasing the new food, and decreasing the old. Also, I would do do the food change - see how they do on that, and then start adding other supplements. You may see that with just switching the food to a much better quality that alot of your problems disappear

    Please keep us posted on the switch and how they do! We'd love to see some pics of all your babies!

    Add: Be patient with the switch, you have to fully allow all the old food to be gone before you start seeing changes, could take at least a month or maybe more. And yes, they can develop allergies to certain foods, even after time.
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    DITTO --- Jessica has given great info.... slow transition to a new food for all three of your babies. Even after many years on a food they can develop issues/allergies. I went to Fromm Beef Frittata first and then after about a year I went to Pork and Peas which was the winner for my girl
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    Us also switched from Costco brand to Fromm Beef Fritata to Pork and peas grain-free. So far so good


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    Thank you so much for your replies. I'm sorry I'm late in responding but I set this thread up so that I would get email notifications when I had responses but never ended up seeing an email.

    I've checked to see where Fromm is sold in my area and am going to run by ASAP! I'm so excited to have possibly found some help for my poor Pork Chop. (While feeling super bad that I hadn't figured this out sooner.)

    I'm not a stranger to paying a decent amount for their food as the Pro Plan isn't exactly cheap but would still like to save a $ where possible especially since we tend to go through it fairly quickly around my house. I noticed that Amazon also has Fromm. Has anyone had any experience buying it on Amazon and saving any over their local suppliers?

    Apparently I set my profile pic but didn't set an avatar so the pic didn't come through on my post. I've added an avatar now so I'm thinking it may come up now?? Those are the only two pics I had on my work computer when I set up my account.

    I found another that is a little more recent and have attached it below. Hopefully it comes through. I'll have to get some current ones and post them. Thanks again to all of you for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBrewer View Post
    Thank you so much for your replies. I'm sorry I'm late in responding but I set this thread up so that I would get email notifications when I had responses but never ended up seeing an email.

    I've checked to see where Fromm is sold in my area and am going to run by ASAP! I'm so excited to have possibly found some help for my poor Pork Chop. (While feeling super bad that I hadn't figured this out sooner.)

    I'm not a stranger to paying a decent amount for their food as the Pro Plan isn't exactly cheap but would still like to save a $ where possible especially since we tend to go through it fairly quickly around my house. I noticed that Amazon also has Fromm. Has anyone had any experience buying it on Amazon and saving any over their local suppliers?

    Apparently I set my profile pic but didn't set an avatar so the pic didn't come through on my post. I've added an avatar now so I'm thinking it may come up now?? Those are the only two pics I had on my work computer when I set up my account.

    I found another that is a little more recent and have attached it below. Hopefully it comes through. I'll have to get some current ones and post them. Thanks again to all of you for your help.

    -pc-jpg

    Pork Chop (Fawn) Ribeye (White)

    Yeay! Oh man, look at those studs! That pic is great, those faces!!!

    So glad you found a retailer that sells Fromms, you know I don't have any experience with Amazon & Fromms, I know a few members use Petflow I would try out one flavor first, see how they do on it, and then once they are doing well on it, go ahead and set up the reoccurring. (if you want it shipped) also ask the place where you are buying from, bc I know with our store, they do rewards, so once I buy 10 bags, the 11th is free, etc.

    Also, just a side note once they are fully on the Fromms after transition - you will notice a change in their poop - probably a lighter color, maybe less in amount. Remember Fromms is a much higher quality food vs Purina so their bodies absorb more of the food (less waste) - you may even be able to cut back how much you feed. How much do you feed now? I would safely say 1 cup x twice a day is good.

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    Lol thanks! I kinda like 'em...

    One of the retailers isn't too far off the route that my husband takes home from work so I'm going to have him run by there today if he can. I'll have him check to see if they have any kind of rewards program. That would be awesome! However, not quite as awesome as less poop!

    I actually meant to ask about feeding schedules as well. When we got them the vet recommended we feed them once a day and that is what we stuck with. Right now we feed them each about 2 cups each per day. Usually in the evening when we have dinner. Would it be better to feed them each 1 cup twice a day instead? Is it bad to feed them only once a day? Weekdays they are left alone from about 7:30am until about 4:00pm if my step son is home otherwise about 5:30pm and I don't want to crate them but I wonder if they would be ok for that long after having eaten if they haven't pooped by the time we have to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBrewer View Post
    Lol thanks! I kinda like 'em...

    One of the retailers isn't too far off the route that my husband takes home from work so I'm going to have him run by there today if he can. I'll have him check to see if they have any kind of rewards program. That would be awesome! However, not quite as awesome as less poop!

    I actually meant to ask about feeding schedules as well. When we got them the vet recommended we feed them once a day and that is what we stuck with. Right now we feed them each about 2 cups each per day. Usually in the evening when we have dinner. Would it be better to feed them each 1 cup twice a day instead? Is it bad to feed them only once a day? Weekdays they are left alone from about 7:30am until about 4:00pm if my step son is home otherwise about 5:30pm and I don't want to crate them but I wonder if they would be ok for that long after having eaten if they haven't pooped by the time we have to leave.
    That's fine too - if it's been working well - stick with that. I used to also feed just once a day. I switched due to other problems with hunger & belly issues. But I would keep on as you have been

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    I usually buy Fromm from Chewy.com, shipping is free if you buy the big bag and it's super fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TyTysmom View Post
    That's fine too - if it's been working well - stick with that. I used to also feed just once a day. I switched due to other problems with hunger & belly issues. But I would keep on as you have been
    Ok good. I think that my husband is going to be able to go by the "Feed and Seed" today to pick up some Fromm. I'll be sure to update as we go and I'm sure I'll end up with other questions as well.

    Again thank you so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBrewer View Post
    Ok good. I think that my husband is going to be able to go by the "Feed and Seed" today to pick up some Fromm. I'll be sure to update as we go and I'm sure I'll end up with other questions as well.

    Again thank you so much.
    Just make sure you do a slow transition. 1/4 cup of new to 3/4 of old for a few days then gradually start changing the ratio until you have more new than old. I feed one cup twice a day due to the fact that Brutus will throw up if his tummy is empty. You may find that on a better food, you might have to feed twice a day as the better will have less fillers in it and your guys may be hungry with one feeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutus77 View Post
    Just make sure you do a slow transition. 1/4 cup of new to 3/4 of old for a few days then gradually start changing the ratio until you have more new than old. I feed one cup twice a day due to the fact that Brutus will throw up if his tummy is empty. You may find that on a better food, you might have to feed twice a day as the better will have less fillers in it and your guys may be hungry with one feeding.
    That makes sense. I will transition them over to the new food and then I will start on transitioning them over to one cup twice a day. Thanks!

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